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Post by Tom on Dec 11, 2008 16:33:01 GMT -5
meh, like i said there is something supernatural out there, we do not understand, but like a lot of stuff we didnt understand hundreds of years ago, we will discover whatever it is and understand it as we develop, i do believe something in the form of spirt does excist, since the human body carries so much energy even when it dies, the energy has to go somewhere, or to something, since the laws of physics teach us energy cannot be destroyed, it can only change form,all i know we could be an expreiment created by beings outside the universe they created, to them we might be microscopic and they might actually only want to learn how the universe develops, there are too many things to believe in some things no one else believes in that i won't accept the fact of whatever religion is popular now or the last 2000 years for all i care is true without proof, which is why i am an atheist, i do not believe in any religion, cause i am not about to limit my life to teaching of the religion which most likely ends up being total crap. No offense, but that is my take on it, i do believe there is something, just nothing people have yet come up with or believe in, some religions might actually be partly true, but that being more of a coicidence, anyway it was fun arguing with you, it's always good to talk about different standing points of how we see the world
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 11, 2008 16:52:19 GMT -5
Then technically, you're not an atheist. You know there is something supernatural out there. You just don't know what.
Aliens? It's possible. *Yet, it's hard to imagine why they'd wait so long to conquer the Earth. Time only increases our strength. The longer they wait, the less likely their chance to succeed will be. *Humans have been exploring space for about 50 years, & we have yet to make contact. (Perhaps we can't find them because they exist in an alternate reality--the astral plane. And yet, this explanation brings us more to spirits than aliens.)
Although I agree that there might be a higher power somewhere, I don't entirely believe all the Jesus feats of magic within the Bible. I'm more of a spiritualist myself.
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Post by Tridart/Sandpit on Dec 11, 2008 17:17:59 GMT -5
Whats suppose to happen on December 21, 2012? Karma is a b*tch y'all!
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Post by Will on Dec 11, 2008 17:43:56 GMT -5
yeah, lol. according to the Mayans that's the day that the world will end (if you believe in God, maybe the Revelation?)
And personally, I don't agree with Tom or shifty at all, but that's just me and everybody's entitled to their own beliefs
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 11, 2008 17:49:57 GMT -5
Only if are cruel to others...
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Post by Tom on Dec 11, 2008 17:54:21 GMT -5
that date has been popping uo in numerous theories and religions, most know is the mayan calendar ending, einstein predicted, earth will be aligned with the center of the milkyway that day and the magnetic poles switch, etc more or less doomsday, oh and shifter, about the aliens, i think it's arrogant to believe that we are the only planet that have living things on it or lifeforms that can think, i am not saying that aliens have visited earth, i am saying that they are out there and our space explorations have not really taken us that far compared to the size of the universe, i am fairly cetain that aliens have never visited earth or we know anything about any aliens, the onyl thing about them we've proved is taht they do not exist in our solar system
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 11, 2008 18:06:26 GMT -5
I never said that. I merely said that it is unlikely that aliens played a role in the creation of the Bible or it's mysteries.
There aliens out there. That's a fact. Whether or not they are intelligent beings, remains unknown. If we were created in the image of God, then it would be unexpected for him to make another intelligent species. That is, unless we've failed as his chosen & he created a new variation of humans on another planet... That might explain why God seems to have disappeared from the world at large. Scary...
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Post by Tom on Dec 11, 2008 18:11:51 GMT -5
hmm, maybe it was all the killing we did in his name, but like i said, i don't believe that the god you mean created the universe, it might've been a being, but i don't believe we were created in the creators image or that the god we thing was actually the creator, a rational unbelieveable explanation might be is that god is an alien, that visited us once or twice and with his supreme technology he showed us miracles, in the end decided us not worthy to bestow their knowledge and left, creating a strong religion in the world, thugh i don't believe that happened it is a possibilit i have thought of
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 11, 2008 18:19:17 GMT -5
Are you referring to hologram projectors & mind altering devices (similar to what the Riddler uses in Batman Forever), but on a grand scale?
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Post by Tom on Dec 11, 2008 18:21:14 GMT -5
o i actually mean, he used technology to make the described miracles happen, it is a theory, i mean the matrix is something that could work as theory and actually watching stargate gave me the idea
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Post by Tridart/Sandpit on Dec 11, 2008 18:44:29 GMT -5
The miracle stuff sounds alot like what Lodovica (Sky Doll) does to win the masses over.
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Post by Tom on Dec 11, 2008 19:02:24 GMT -5
hmm, haven't read past what you gave me tridart
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 11, 2008 19:19:04 GMT -5
That'd be some pretty advanced technology. And yet, the existence of spirits who vouch for seeing God might be a major flaw to that theory.
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Post by Tom on Dec 12, 2008 7:27:47 GMT -5
where exactly are you taking spirits are vouching for that?
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 12, 2008 12:09:28 GMT -5
Spirits are all around us. When they exit the astral plane to enter the material plane (Earth), they take the form of invisible gas. Ever feel a chill tingle through your body while you are in your house with the windows closed. Their physical form is hurt by radiation (usually the sun), so they're most active at night or early in the morning.
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