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Post by Will on Dec 6, 2008 23:30:55 GMT -5
Are you talking about when Phobos tried to take her powers then?
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 6, 2008 23:42:53 GMT -5
Yes, taking Elyon's powers but with a method that won't kill her (exactly the way he did it with Endarno).
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Post by Will on Dec 6, 2008 23:48:31 GMT -5
yeah, but he doesn't have the power to glamour himself or shapeshift
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 6, 2008 23:51:31 GMT -5
Of course, he does. Phobos glamours lots of stuff in the show.
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Post by Will on Dec 7, 2008 0:12:25 GMT -5
lol, keywords "in the show"
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 7, 2008 2:26:51 GMT -5
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Post by Elyon on Dec 7, 2008 6:26:20 GMT -5
That's not what I meant. I was refering to Arc 1. In fact, it seems such a fool-proof plan that just might try it in the RPG. You should've been more specific then. The inclusion of 'Endarno' made me think you were reffering to the fourth arc... But again: Phobos is sexist and likely refuses to look like a woman. EVER... And I recal the Oracle saying somewhere in issue #11 that Phobos' attempt to kill his sister in public was another act of pride, and a demonstration of his power and will. Therefore, considdering all the pride Phobos keeps showing (Especially in the first arc) it's unlikely that he would try something sneaky like that. After all, had it all succeeded, then the people of Meridian would likely lose all hope after Phobos' first attack. There is no guarantee that Elyon's powers can be taken without taking her life as well. Even in the fourth arc, when she gives the essence of Light away, she seemed pretty beat and unable to stand on her own two feet after that... The absence of that essence may very well be draining away her life force during that time... And the most important flaw to your plan... Without Elyon, the crown of Light is useless to you. In issue #11, Phobos wears it for quite some time (somehow not affected by it's curse), but despite that, his powers absolutely didn't increase, even by a bit. Why he wanted it so badly in arc 4... My guess is that Phobos considders it the symbol of his deepest desires... Either that, or lame Oracle plottwists... Finally, I think it deserves a mention yet again that I'm not portraying Elyon's TV show counterpart... I'm sharp enough to see through an ill-fabricated lie, so if you want such a plan (or any plan for that matter) to succeed, make sure you carefully choose your actions and words... If something seems odd, you can count on it I'll check things with Cedric (or even worse people if I start distrusting the big snake too).
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 7, 2008 12:24:43 GMT -5
He isn't going to care about being a girl during a brief moment when he is alone with Elyon. As soon as the transfer is done, he can use magic to look like his old body. As far as the male body that is Ellie's prison is concerned, it can be drained of power & locked away somewhere.
It's nothing more than a mere body switch. The real Endarno didn't seem to suffer any ill affects from the transfer, neither should Ellie. Also, Phobos was drained of almost all of his magic & he was still alive. As such, draining Phobos' body of all magical power shouldn't harm Elyon either.
Yes, the main reason for the switch. Phobos will be Elyon. As such, he will receive the full power of the Crown of Light. Who'd a thought Phobos was such a genius?
Should I decide to set this perfect plan in motion, poor Ellie won't even have a chance to get suspicious. The switch is instantaneous & the spell takes no time to prepare. Re-read the part when Phobos explains his escape to Cedric if you don't believe me. Endarno didn't even have a chance to scream in surprise.
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Post by Elyon on Dec 7, 2008 13:07:07 GMT -5
Oh boy... Here we go again... You failed to adress Phobos' prominent feelings of pride... So I take it you agree with me on the subject of Phobos much rather killing everything in public, rather than hide away his victory... First off: the switch did affect Endarno. Poor bloke could hardly even move. But that's not entirely the point here... The point here is what you yourself already said... Body switch... Sounds to me like that shouldn't affect powers of birthright. The TV show coined a nice term for this, called 'permission magic'. And no: I'm not adressing all magic powers here, in case you wish to point out Endarno again. I'm talking about the fact that Elyon's powers are her birthright, and therefore fall into a different category. Something else I wish to adress: Phobos was drained of all magic he had stolen. In other words: only magic that wasn't his to begin with. Elyon's powers, however, are rightfully hers, and thus you shouldn't compare the situation... Phobos didn't truly become Endarno either. Not only am I going on about the reflection in the mirrors everywhere, but more specifically the fact that Will explicitally states: "May your spirit return to the body it belongs to!" Also, Phobos stated that he 'needs to renew the spell' to stay in Endarno's body. As such, I think it's pretty safe to assume that, no matter what your intent, you can never truly become the person whom's body you're after... This is the part where I point out the following: Phobos used his negative emotions to switch personalities. Unless you quickly lock yourself up in the prison tower for foughly a year and ahalf in total misery, I don't think you'll discover this ability in time. And no: I'm not buying your angstful speech about Phobos' childhood in the gardens, since I still think it sounds like a big fat lie in order to win some compassion from Miranda. Finally, and most importantly (Why I didn't think this up earlier is beyond me): Phobos is still not your character! So even if you manage to wiggle your way around every and all loophole, there still is this very important fact that should make you think twice about doing something radiacly different from the comics or TV show. And if it already does, then it should make you think three times.
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 7, 2008 13:41:39 GMT -5
Ouch... If that is the case, then I'll stop wasting time making evil plans & let the dark prince rot on the throne instead.
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Post by Zeph/Eric Lyndon on Dec 9, 2008 17:42:59 GMT -5
lol. a hot and steamy karma cookie for you Elyon!
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Post by Tridart/Sandpit on Dec 9, 2008 17:50:10 GMT -5
Hot and steamy oh my!
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Post by Taranee on Dec 11, 2008 11:04:09 GMT -5
lol at Tridy
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 11, 2008 23:15:52 GMT -5
Yeah, yeah... I get the hint. I'll try to be less dramatic with my subs.
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 14, 2008 12:48:55 GMT -5
Is it just me or does Matt's mom look young enough to be his sister?
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