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Post by Will on Dec 14, 2008 21:18:15 GMT -5
that's my one goal in life
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 15, 2008 1:03:05 GMT -5
When you consider how similar each of the futures are, they aren't really that numerous. Our genetics will always remain the same. As such, the potential paths available for us to take are set in stone.
There are even those who believe in only one path: their destiny.
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Post by Will on Dec 16, 2008 7:08:12 GMT -5
the only thing that genetics have to do with it is that they determine a small part of your personality and your physical and maybe mental ability to do things. I believe in nurture vs. nature, if you're aware of that argument. And our paths are never set in stone. Haven't you ever seen somebody come completely out of their good guy character and steal something or kill somebody 'just because' and then end up in jail. To think of the way we are born and then to look ahead into the future thinking that your destiny is just "set in stone" to where no matter what choices you make your life will remain relatively the same, then what then would be the point in trying to make your life better and to try living?
Destiny is probably out there somewhere, I just kind of think of it more as where I'm supposed to stand at the end of the road. I don't like it when people say that every little action they make is their destiny. I'd like some credit in making my own right choices in life, thank you
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Post by Elyon on Dec 16, 2008 13:13:37 GMT -5
Our genetics will always remain the same. As such, the potential paths available for us to take are set in stone. Lol Genetics have nothing to do with the choices one makes. Well, last time I checked anyway... As for the rest... I suppose that's one for the Path to Enlightment thread...
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Post by Tridart/Sandpit on Dec 16, 2008 17:05:14 GMT -5
I smell some Metal Gear Solid up in here. It may be a game but genetics are heavily discussed in it.
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Post by Will on Dec 16, 2008 20:20:46 GMT -5
I agree. How you are born as does not make a person take a certain choice. That's the wonderful part of being human. We may grow up badly or even want revenge, etc., but anybody at any moment in their lives can choose right from wrong. Each and every one of us has the ability to choose, and the path that leads on from that just results from each decision that a person makes, whether they be rewards or consequences. Choices, more than anything else are the deciding factor in a person's future
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Post by Tom on Dec 17, 2008 0:52:10 GMT -5
ok, i will rephrase what shifter said, you make your own destiny with the choices you make in life, but genetics have a wide impact, for example if you were genetically black 20-40 years ago, your shot to become the american president would not be high, even if you decide on all the right things it might not happen, same way someone's mental capacity to learn or someone who doesn't want to do sport, all of those things are decided genetically, you can go against them and try to change yourself, but you never can completely, bottom line anything can happen to anyone, i mean a piano can drop from the sky on me and nothing i decided made it happen nor did genetics, anything can happen but genetics show you the most possible scenarios of certain things.
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 17, 2008 10:38:22 GMT -5
You can nurture a mentally disabled person all you want, but she'll never become a lawyer. You can nurture an obese man with a bad heart, but he'll never pass boot camp to be all he can be in the army. We are all born with our own physical limitations. Besides, can you really claim that the amount of nurturing we shall receive isn't set in stone?
You forget that you are not the one who decides the consequences of your choices.
Examples: Scenario 1 *You decide to cross the road when the walk signal is given. A drunk driver runs you over. You are dead. *You decide to wait a little longer. A drunk driver runs through the red light. You feel glad you chose to wait.
Scenario 2 *You decide to cross the road when the walk signal is given. A truck makes a fast right turn & drives over the curb. You're thankful you didn't wait. *You decide to wait longer. A truck makes a fast right turn & drives over you as well as the curb. You are dead.
As you can see, your choices are the same in both scenarios but the results are the exact opposite. No matter how much control you think you may have, there is little you can do to change your fate. ______________ Getting back on topic, who are the best pairings that have existed in our RPG so far?
My first vote goes to Elyon x Cedric.
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Post by Will on Dec 17, 2008 15:11:24 GMT -5
I never said that a person could do anything I was just stating that a person has the choice and that they can try to do anything. Is it better for that disabled person to try her best to become a lawyer, even if the chances are that it won't happen, and then learn things in the process, or for her to say "nope, can't do it. This will never happen because my destiny is set in stone. Might as well not even bother trying"? Even if achieving anything other than their "destiny" is impossible, people will doom themselves into thinking that there's no other possible way to turn their lives around. Roosevelt might have been stuck in a wheelchair, practically inable to do all of the things that most Presidents of the U.S. could do, but what would have happened if he realized that he didn't have those same capabilities so he wouldn't even bother trying? And I get what Tom was saying, but hey, just because you have the wrong or right genetics for a goal doesn't mean that you have to stop trying. In that situation, the guy would have the choice to stop trying or keep going on and then his path would change from there. Who knows, maybe a black man who desperately wanted to be President could have influenced Obama to do the same lol, I know I don't control the results of my choices. I was claiming that I hate it when people are all like "yes, I saved the kid from a fire only because it was my destiny to do so." You make it sound like there's only a good or bad option from every choice and that they're fated to be that way. It's just as much somebody's "fate" as it is the consequences of a person's bad choice. If that person walked into the road with the drunk driver, what if somebody saved her? There's more to choices than direct rewards or consequences. And you're right, we don't have any control. The only control we have is to make our choice and see what happens. The thing is that what our fated path is changes the second you either decide to walk or stay where you are
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 17, 2008 15:29:40 GMT -5
And yet, the fated path is still a fated path. All you did was choose another course to your destination. (Kinda like choosing to take the stairs rather than using the elevator. You reach the next floor either way.)
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Post by Will on Dec 17, 2008 15:35:03 GMT -5
It looks like we've come to the same conclusion as that's what I've been thinking from the beginning. I don't think that every single little thing you do is a part of your fate. With the whole death thing you make your choice and may not get run over by the car but you will eventually die later, as will everyone. I still kind of think of destiny as where I'm supposed to be at the end of the road from the choices I make and actions I take along that road
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Post by Prince Phobos on Dec 20, 2008 2:40:50 GMT -5
Yup yup!
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Post by Will on Dec 20, 2008 2:50:01 GMT -5
I actually like Hay Lin and Eric a lot. If you could pick one nondysfunctional relationship, even in some way, then it would be the two of them
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Post by Prince Phobos on Jan 8, 2009 11:32:59 GMT -5
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Post by Will on Jan 8, 2009 19:47:49 GMT -5
lol! I love We! ;D
And I think that Cornelia and Taranee would be good sisters ^^
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